Data File Does Not Shrink! (SQL2K)

Hi,
I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB but
after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after restore
it's 15GB.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Leilahave you tried shrinking the files individually? To do this go to
shrink database, then click on the files... button and select the data
file you want to shrink.
Leila wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB but
> after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after restore
> it's 15GB.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Leila|||Thanks,
I explained it exactly in my previous post!
"Someone Else" <someone_else_of_course@.hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1163509708.111473.245080@.b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> have you tried shrinking the files individually? To do this go to
> shrink database, then click on the files... button and select the data
> file you want to shrink.
> Leila wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
>> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB
>> but
>> after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
>> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
>> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after
>> restore
>> it's 15GB.
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> Leila
>|||you were less exact with the line "any help would be greatly
appreciated"
anyway, I was just trying to check the basics, people often confuse the
shrink database option and shrink file option.
things you could try (I don't know if they make a difference, but I
tend to clutch at straws when this happens to me and it usually works
in the end) would be clearing all connections to your db (not always an
option), checking to see what locks are held, if it's an option you
could even try detaching and re-attaching.
I believe the backup will restore with the file sizes it originally was
backed up with, so if you are restoring from a backup that had a lot of
free space when backed up, it will claim that space again upon restore.
Leila wrote:
> Thanks,
> I explained it exactly in my previous post!
>
> "Someone Else" <someone_else_of_course@.hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1163509708.111473.245080@.b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > have you tried shrinking the files individually? To do this go to
> > shrink database, then click on the files... button and select the data
> > file you want to shrink.
> >
> > Leila wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
> >> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB
> >> but
> >> after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
> >> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
> >> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after
> >> restore
> >> it's 15GB.
> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >> Leila
> >|||Try:
dbcc shrinkfile(1,9000)
... explicitly specify the size (in MB)
"Leila" wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB but
> after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after restore
> it's 15GB.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Leila
>
>|||Leila,
The situation you are reporting, is relacionated with the DB Transaction Log.
If you are not doing any log shipping, or transaction log backups, run the
Following:
Backup Log DatabaseName with truncate_only
This will truncate the inactive part of the Trn Log.
Best Regards,
Paulo Condeça
"Leila" wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB but
> after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after restore
> it's 15GB.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Leila
>
>|||Leila
Let's start with classic question , why would you want to shrink the file at
all?
Have you read this article?
http://www.karaszi.com/SQLServer/info_dont_shrink.asp
DBCC SHRINKFILE does not shrink a file past the size needed to store the
data. If you have 50 percent of the pagaes in a 10 MB data file are used ,a
DBCC SHRINKFILE statement with a target_size of 6 shrinks the file to only
5GB/MB not 6GB/MB
"Leila" <Leilas@.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:uYimey%23BHHA.2328@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB
> but after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after
> restore it's 15GB.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Leila
>|||Thanks,
I exactly tried it, but no change occured!
"F_clef" <Fclef@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A2C58C00-D254-496F-ABFC-B1C7DB76EBDF@.microsoft.com...
> Try:
> dbcc shrinkfile(1,9000)
> ... explicitly specify the size (in MB)
> "Leila" wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
>> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB
>> but
>> after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
>> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
>> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after
>> restore
>> it's 15GB.
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> Leila
>>|||Thanks,
The log file almost always is 30MB! (Simple recovery model is being used)
"Paulo Condeça" <PauloCondea@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B2BF958E-CE71-4DD6-8570-DA5EB3EF47F0@.microsoft.com...
> Leila,
> The situation you are reporting, is relacionated with the DB Transaction
> Log.
> If you are not doing any log shipping, or transaction log backups, run the
> Following:
> Backup Log DatabaseName with truncate_only
> This will truncate the inactive part of the Trn Log.
> Best Regards,
> Paulo Condeça
> "Leila" wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
>> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB
>> but
>> after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
>> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
>> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after
>> restore
>> it's 15GB.
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> Leila
>>|||Thanks Uri,
Actually there was a big table in db (about 5GB). At the end of year, the
data of this table was moved to other db (kind of archive). The admin
dropped and recreated this table in first db. After some time, this table
became large again. sp_SpaceUsed shows that this table has 3GB reserved
space, 500MB is data and almost 2.5GB is unused! I'm curious to free this
2.5GB space.
I must mention that DBCC CHECKDB returns error for 4 pages near eachother.
But the ObjectID the it shows does not exists in sysobjects and Object_Name
function returns NULL for it!
"Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
news:edCoPQ$BHHA.3228@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Leila
> Let's start with classic question , why would you want to shrink the file
> at all?
> Have you read this article?
> http://www.karaszi.com/SQLServer/info_dont_shrink.asp
>
> DBCC SHRINKFILE does not shrink a file past the size needed to store the
> data. If you have 50 percent of the pagaes in a 10 MB data file are used
> ,a DBCC SHRINKFILE statement with a target_size of 6 shrinks the file to
> only 5GB/MB not 6GB/MB
>
>
> "Leila" <Leilas@.hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:uYimey%23BHHA.2328@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
>> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB
>> but after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and
>> DBCC SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)!
>> It might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after
>> restore it's 15GB.
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> Leila
>sql

Data File Does Not Shrink! (SQL2K)

Hi,
I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB but
after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after restore
it's 15GB.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Leila
have you tried shrinking the files individually? To do this go to
shrink database, then click on the files... button and select the data
file you want to shrink.
Leila wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB but
> after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after restore
> it's 15GB.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Leila
|||Thanks,
I explained it exactly in my previous post!
"Someone Else" <someone_else_of_course@.hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1163509708.111473.245080@.b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> have you tried shrinking the files individually? To do this go to
> shrink database, then click on the files... button and select the data
> file you want to shrink.
> Leila wrote:
>
|||you were less exact with the line "any help would be greatly
appreciated"
anyway, I was just trying to check the basics, people often confuse the
shrink database option and shrink file option.
things you could try (I don't know if they make a difference, but I
tend to clutch at straws when this happens to me and it usually works
in the end) would be clearing all connections to your db (not always an
option), checking to see what locks are held, if it's an option you
could even try detaching and re-attaching.
I believe the backup will restore with the file sizes it originally was
backed up with, so if you are restoring from a backup that had a lot of
free space when backed up, it will claim that space again upon restore.
Leila wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Thanks,
> I explained it exactly in my previous post!
>
> "Someone Else" <someone_else_of_course@.hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1163509708.111473.245080@.b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
|||Try:
dbcc shrinkfile(1,9000)
... explicitly specify the size (in MB)
"Leila" wrote:

> Hi,
> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB but
> after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after restore
> it's 15GB.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Leila
>
>
|||Leila,
The situation you are reporting, is relacionated with the DB Transaction Log.
If you are not doing any log shipping, or transaction log backups, run the
Following:
Backup Log DatabaseName with truncate_only
This will truncate the inactive part of the Trn Log.
Best Regards,
Paulo Conde?a
"Leila" wrote:

> Hi,
> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB but
> after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after restore
> it's 15GB.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Leila
>
>
|||Leila
Let's start with classic question , why would you want to shrink the file at
all?
Have you read this article?
http://www.karaszi.com/SQLServer/info_dont_shrink.asp
DBCC SHRINKFILE does not shrink a file past the size needed to store the
data. If you have 50 percent of the pagaes in a 10 MB data file are used ,a
DBCC SHRINKFILE statement with a target_size of 6 shrinks the file to only
5GB/MB not 6GB/MB
"Leila" <Leilas@.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:uYimey%23BHHA.2328@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB
> but after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after
> restore it's 15GB.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Leila
>
|||Thanks,
I exactly tried it, but no change occured!
"F_clef" <Fclef@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A2C58C00-D254-496F-ABFC-B1C7DB76EBDF@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Try:
> dbcc shrinkfile(1,9000)
> ... explicitly specify the size (in MB)
> "Leila" wrote:
|||Thanks,
The log file almost always is 30MB! (Simple recovery model is being used)
"Paulo Condea" <PauloCondea@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B2BF958E-CE71-4DD6-8570-DA5EB3EF47F0@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Leila,
> The situation you are reporting, is relacionated with the DB Transaction
> Log.
> If you are not doing any log shipping, or transaction log backups, run the
> Following:
> Backup Log DatabaseName with truncate_only
> This will truncate the inactive part of the Trn Log.
> Best Regards,
> Paulo Condea
> "Leila" wrote:
|||Thanks Uri,
Actually there was a big table in db (about 5GB). At the end of year, the
data of this table was moved to other db (kind of archive). The admin
dropped and recreated this table in first db. After some time, this table
became large again. sp_SpaceUsed shows that this table has 3GB reserved
space, 500MB is data and almost 2.5GB is unused! I'm curious to free this
2.5GB space.
I must mention that DBCC CHECKDB returns error for 4 pages near eachother.
But the ObjectID the it shows does not exists in sysobjects and Object_Name
function returns NULL for it!
"Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
news:edCoPQ$BHHA.3228@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Leila
> Let's start with classic question , why would you want to shrink the file
> at all?
> Have you read this article?
> http://www.karaszi.com/SQLServer/info_dont_shrink.asp
>
> DBCC SHRINKFILE does not shrink a file past the size needed to store the
> data. If you have 50 percent of the pagaes in a 10 MB data file are used
> ,a DBCC SHRINKFILE statement with a target_size of 6 shrinks the file to
> only 5GB/MB not 6GB/MB
>
>
> "Leila" <Leilas@.hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:uYimey%23BHHA.2328@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>

Data File Does Not Shrink! (SQL2K)

Hi,
I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB but
after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after restore
it's 15GB.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Leilahave you tried shrinking the files individually? To do this go to
shrink database, then click on the files... button and select the data
file you want to shrink.
Leila wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB bu
t
> after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after resto
re
> it's 15GB.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Leila|||Thanks,
I explained it exactly in my previous post!
"Someone Else" <someone_else_of_course@.hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1163509708.111473.245080@.b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> have you tried shrinking the files individually? To do this go to
> shrink database, then click on the files... button and select the data
> file you want to shrink.
> Leila wrote:
>|||you were less exact with the line "any help would be greatly
appreciated"
anyway, I was just trying to check the basics, people often confuse the
shrink database option and shrink file option.
things you could try (I don't know if they make a difference, but I
tend to clutch at straws when this happens to me and it usually works
in the end) would be clearing all connections to your db (not always an
option), checking to see what locks are held, if it's an option you
could even try detaching and re-attaching.
I believe the backup will restore with the file sizes it originally was
backed up with, so if you are restoring from a backup that had a lot of
free space when backed up, it will claim that space again upon restore.
Leila wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Thanks,
> I explained it exactly in my previous post!
>
> "Someone Else" <someone_else_of_course@.hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1163509708.111473.245080@.b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...|||Try:
dbcc shrinkfile(1,9000)
... explicitly specify the size (in MB)
"Leila" wrote:

> Hi,
> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB bu
t
> after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after resto
re
> it's 15GB.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Leila
>
>|||Leila,
The situation you are reporting, is relacionated with the DB Transaction Log
.
If you are not doing any log shipping, or transaction log backups, run the
Following:
Backup Log DatabaseName with truncate_only
This will truncate the inactive part of the Trn Log.
Best Regards,
Paulo Conde?a
"Leila" wrote:

> Hi,
> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB bu
t
> after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after resto
re
> it's 15GB.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Leila
>
>|||Leila
Let's start with classic question , why would you want to shrink the file at
all?
Have you read this article?
http://www.karaszi.com/SQLServer/info_dont_shrink.asp
DBCC SHRINKFILE does not shrink a file past the size needed to store the
data. If you have 50 percent of the pagaes in a 10 MB data file are used ,a
DBCC SHRINKFILE statement with a target_size of 6 shrinks the file to only
5GB/MB not 6GB/MB
"Leila" <Leilas@.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:uYimey%23BHHA.2328@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> I have a database that its data file is almost 15GB. When I go to shrink
> file page (EM), the page displays that the minimum file size can be 8GB
> but after shrink, the size doesn't change at all! I tried both EM and DBCC
> SHRINKFILE and the result is the same(the process takes 10 minutes)! It
> might help if I say that the complete backup is about 9GB, but after
> restore it's 15GB.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Leila
>|||Thanks,
I exactly tried it, but no change occured!
"F_clef" <Fclef@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A2C58C00-D254-496F-ABFC-B1C7DB76EBDF@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Try:
> dbcc shrinkfile(1,9000)
> ... explicitly specify the size (in MB)
> "Leila" wrote:
>|||Thanks,
The log file almost always is 30MB! (Simple recovery model is being used)
"Paulo Condea" <PauloCondea@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B2BF958E-CE71-4DD6-8570-DA5EB3EF47F0@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Leila,
> The situation you are reporting, is relacionated with the DB Transaction
> Log.
> If you are not doing any log shipping, or transaction log backups, run the
> Following:
> Backup Log DatabaseName with truncate_only
> This will truncate the inactive part of the Trn Log.
> Best Regards,
> Paulo Condea
> "Leila" wrote:
>|||Thanks Uri,
Actually there was a big table in db (about 5GB). At the end of year, the
data of this table was moved to other db (kind of archive). The admin
dropped and recreated this table in first db. After some time, this table
became large again. sp_SpaceUsed shows that this table has 3GB reserved
space, 500MB is data and almost 2.5GB is unused! I'm curious to free this
2.5GB space.
I must mention that DBCC CHECKDB returns error for 4 pages near eachother.
But the ObjectID the it shows does not exists in sysobjects and Object_Name
function returns NULL for it!
"Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
news:edCoPQ$BHHA.3228@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Leila
> Let's start with classic question , why would you want to shrink the file
> at all?
> Have you read this article?
> http://www.karaszi.com/SQLServer/info_dont_shrink.asp
>
> DBCC SHRINKFILE does not shrink a file past the size needed to store the
> data. If you have 50 percent of the pagaes in a 10 MB data file are used
> ,a DBCC SHRINKFILE statement with a target_size of 6 shrinks the file to
> only 5GB/MB not 6GB/MB
>
>
> "Leila" <Leilas@.hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:uYimey%23BHHA.2328@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>

Data #ERROR in Report Manager but not Designer

Hi,

I'm running a report using MDX. In preview, the report displays correctly, but after deploying to Report Manager, where there were once numbers there is now '#Error'. The string fields display correctly, its just the numeric ones that are not working.

Any help is much appreciated.

Cheers,

Ali

Is anything coming back from the cube? Are dimension values being retrieved correctly?

It sounds as if the connectivity may not be working between the server and the cube.

|||Yes, a list of zones are coming back from the cube. It's their associated measures that are displaying the error.|||

Is there any security on the cube?

Also, is it a matrix or tabular layout?

|||

There's not really too much security. There is one user who has access to everything and this is the credentials used in the data source.

The report uses a table and it has previously worked on a 2000 server but has recently migrated to 2005 (referencing a 2000 cube with a 2005 dll). Other similar reports using the same dll have migrated fine, except for one which keeps asking for a user name and password.

I've copied the code from the dll and added into the dataset and am still getting the same errors.. so the problem isn't with the dlls..|||

Well, that exhausted my short list of possibilities.

Are numeric cells using any type of formula? Aggregate can be a bit flaky.

|||

I know.. its confusing ey!!

and get this.. when i try it on our production 2005 server .. it works! Something funky is going on.

Customizing NoRows Rpt Svs 2003

How can I customize the NoRows String message in a subreport? The text
it displays is black and in Times New Roman. I need to change the font
and color.
Thanks in advance,
RobertNevermind, I'm an idiot. Thanks. Didn't realize the font property on
the actual subreport controlled that.